{"id":713125,"date":"2025-10-10T14:28:46","date_gmt":"2025-10-10T12:28:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/numero.com\/?p=713125"},"modified":"2025-10-10T14:28:50","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T12:28:50","slug":"interview-with-patti-smith-an-artist-can-inspire-thrill-and-encourage-people-to-take-action","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/culture-en\/music\/interview-with-patti-smith-an-artist-can-inspire-thrill-and-encourage-people-to-take-action\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Patti Smith: \u201cAn artist can inspire, thrill and encourage people to take action\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9-5dFoFtsx8\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9-5dFoFtsx8<\/a><\/div>\r\n<figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Soundwalk Collective and Patti Smith &#8211; <em>Children of Chernobyl<\/em>\u00a0(2025).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After producing three albums together between 2019 and 2021, <a href=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/culture-en\/from-britney-spears-to-patti-smith-5-music-books-to-have-this-winter-2\/\"><strong>Patti Smith<\/strong><\/a> and the New York-based artistic and musical duo <strong>Soundwalk Collective<\/strong> created <em data-start=\"594\" data-end=\"604\">Evidence, <\/em>an immersive installation at the Centre Pompidou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From October 2022 to January 2023, they offered visitors a sonic, metaphysical and poetic experience. An invitation to dive into the works of French poets &#8220;with soles of wind\u201d Antonin Artaud, Arthur Rimbaud and Ren\u00e9 Daumal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A new EP and a tour scheduled for 2025<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The installation featured mesmerizing musical creations, with the voices of <a href=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/culture-en\/tv-shows\/interview-with-charlotte-gainsbourg-and-lou-de-laage-stars-of-the-series-etoile\/\"><strong>Charlotte Gainsbourg<\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/culture-en\/ive-had-very-very-bad-trips-on-lsd-the-cult-interview-with-charlotte-rampling-2\/\"><strong>Charlotte Rampling<\/strong><\/a>, <strong>Patti Smith<\/strong>\u2019s own pictorial works, as well as a collection of objects coming from the three poets&#8217; travels &#8211; Ethiopia, India and Mexico. <em>Num\u00e9ro<\/em> met the sparkling punk priestess at the museum, in a small group setting, to talk about the power of poetry, climate change and feminism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p data-start=\"1303\" data-end=\"1523\">The singer&#8217;s latest EP with Soundwalk Collective was released last March. Now, the singer is about to embark on a world tour and will be stopping in Paris to celebrate the 50th anniversary of <strong><em data-start=\"1471\" data-end=\"1479\">Horses<\/em><\/strong>, her cult album reissued in a remastered digital version in October 2025. Throwback to that memorable exchange.<\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/HG8IJgJf1O8\">https:\/\/youtu.be\/HG8IJgJf1O8<\/a><\/div>\r\n<figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The presentation of the Patti Smith exhibition at Centre Pompidou, Paris, in 2022 and 2023.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interview with singer Patti Smith<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nume\u0301ro: How did you and Stephan Crasneanscki, the New York-based French artist and creator of Soundwalk Collective, meet?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong data-start=\"1699\" data-end=\"1715\"><a href=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/culture-en\/interview-with-patti-smith-for-her-exhibition-with-soundwalk-collective-at-the-centre-pompidou\/\">Patti Smith<\/a>:<\/strong> The funny thing is that this exhibition is all about travel. You see stones brought back from the beautiful mountains of Mexico, landscapes of India, and objects from the city of Harar in eastern Ethiopia. We actually met while travelling. I was returning from Morocco, where I was attending a festival celebrating the Beat Generation, and I was on a flight from Paris to New York. Stephan was sitting next to me. I don\u2019t usually talk to people on the plane. But he was reading a book about <strong>Nico<\/strong>, who was part of <a href=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/culture-en\/music\/the-velvet-underground-5-things-you-may-not-know-about-andy-warhols-favorite-band\/\"><strong>The Velvet Underground<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Did you know the singer Nico well?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nico<\/strong> was my friend. I\u2019ve read many books about her, but I didn\u2019t know that one. So I asked him about it and he told me that he was working on a musical and poetic project about the final days and hours of Nico. I asked him, \u201c<em>Who\u2019s going to read Nico\u2019s poems?<\/em>\u201d He said, \u201c<em>I don\u2019t know yet. We\u2019ll find someone<\/em>.\u201d Then, I spontaneously said, \u201c<em>I\u2019ll do it. She was my friend. I think I understood her<\/em>.\u201d The next day, I went to Stephan\u2019s studio in New York, which was just a short walk from my home, and we started working together. When we finished the album <em data-start=\"598\" data-end=\"611\">Killer Road<\/em> (2016), we thought, \u201c<em>We can\u2019t just part ways like this, it\u2019s kind of sad. Let\u2019s do more!<\/em>\u201d So, we embarked on a trilogy project about French poets we loved: <strong>Ren\u00e9 Daumal<\/strong>, <strong>Arthur Rimbaud<\/strong> and <strong>Antonin Artaud<\/strong>. Stephan and I met in the sky, which is always a good start for a long-lasting collaboration.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DDiOJgDpo-N\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:540px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DDiOJgDpo-N\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; line-height:0; padding:0 0; text-align:center; text-decoration:none; width:100%;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <div style=\" display: flex; flex-direction: row; align-items: center;\"> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 40px; margin-right: 14px; 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DDiOJgDpo-N\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Une publication partag\u00e9e par This is Patti Smith (@thisispattismith)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote><br\/><script async=\"\" data-cookieconsent=\"statistics, marketing\" data-src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><div class=\"cookieconsent-optout-statistics cookieconsent-optout-marketing\"><\/div><br\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">\u201c<em>I\u2019ve been reading Rimbaud for over half a century, since I was 15<\/em>.\u201d \u2014 Patti Smith<\/h2><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p data-start=\"992\" data-end=\"1025\"><strong data-start=\"992\" data-end=\"1023\">What do you have in common?<\/strong><\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stephan had already begun researching <strong>Rimbaud<\/strong>. As for me, I\u2019ve been reading Rimbaud for over half a century, since I was 15. So, reading his poetry for this project was a job made for me, as much as experiencing it through his travels. We wanted to explore his stay in Harar, Ethiopia, through the songs of Sufis lulled by the wind and the rain. That\u2019s how the album <em data-start=\"1415\" data-end=\"1428\">Mummer Love<\/em> (2019) about Rimbaud was born. We focused on the end of his life, which is less known than his early French years when he wrote<em>\u00a0Une saison en enfer<\/em> (1873) and <strong><em>Illuminations<\/em><\/strong> (1886).\u00a0<br><br>Then we decided to work on another project, and we chose a poet we both loved: <strong>Antonin Artaud.<\/strong> I started reading him at the age of 20. This poet is celebrated as the handsome young man in the film <em data-start=\"1836\" data-end=\"1864\">The Passion of Joan of Arc<\/em> (1928) and as the inventor of the concept of the Theatre of Cruelty with his book <em data-start=\"1942\" data-end=\"1970\">The Theatre and Its Double<\/em> (1938). But people know less about his peyote rituals in Mexico. He wrote about them in <em data-start=\"2059\" data-end=\"2077\">The Peyote Dance<\/em>, 1987. That fascinating part of his life is what we explored with Stephan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And what about the poet Ren\u00e9 Daumal?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ren\u00e9 Daumal<\/strong> (1908\u20131944) is less known than <strong>Artaud<\/strong> and <strong>Rimbaud<\/strong>, but his writing is so beautiful. As a young writer and poet, he used to be a punk, a real rock star. He told the Surrealists to go to hell, as he wanted to go further beyond their movement. To reach his goal and transcend the mere surrealist dreams, he took a lot of drugs to expand his consciousness. However, in his quest to disrupt all his senses, he had a very dangerous, intoxicating trip using tetrachloromethane [he originally used the substance to kill the beetles he collected, Ed.]. <br><br>He learned some literary lessons from it that allowed him to dive into another world, but he also destroyed his lungs. Because of that, he couldn\u2019t fight the tuberculosis he was diagnosed with in his thirties. He died too young, at the age of 36, just before World War II ended.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>We don\u2019t know much about him indeed\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stephan and I didn\u2019t focus on the young Daumal. Instead, we explored the most difficult and challenging part of his life, when he was trying to work while fighting tuberculosis and dreaming of climbing mountains in India, especially a sacred one he wanted to write about. Neither did he climb that mountain, because he died of his disease, nor did he finish his masterpiece, the adventure novel<em>&nbsp;Mount Analogue&nbsp;<\/em>(1952). Stephan and I decided to continue the journey for him, this physical, mental, and spiritual journey in the mountains.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a4fe05ccb71f&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a4fe05ccb71f\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium_large size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"495\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/patti-smith-soundwalk-collective-numero-magazine.jpg\" alt=\"Patti Smith.\" class=\"wp-image-558177\"\/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Soundwalk Collective (Stephan Crasneanscki, Simone Meril) \u00a9 Vanina Sorrenti and Patti Smith \u00a9 Jesse Paris Smith.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\" data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"164\">\u201c<em>I think it\u2019s wonderful and very important that revolutionary efforts are being made to give a voice to women and the transgender community<\/em>.\u201d \u2014 Patti Smith<\/h2><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Your exhibition at the Centre Pompidou highlighted three men\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I don\u2019t see them as men. I\u2019m interested in their poetry first. I\u2019m interested in the work of women as much as men. And I don\u2019t think God cares about our gender. I\u2019m a humanist. I have a son and a daughter, and to me, their rights are equal. I want both my son and my daughter to have a beautiful life. But I think it\u2019s wonderful and very important that revolutionary efforts are being made to give a voice to women and the transgender community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>We are facing a terrible climate crisis. How can music, art and poetry have an impact in all this?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p data-start=\"814\" data-end=\"1307\">This global crisis is probably the biggest one we have ever faced. Every action is important, from <strong>Greta Thunberg<\/strong> and youngsters marching in the streets to people cleaning up public spaces and fighting against the government or big corporations. In this context, a poem or a song can help. A poem or a beautiful song alone won\u2019t change anything, but the people reading or listening to them can make a change. Poetry, music, and art can inspire people to take action. But, we need millions of people to unite.<\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C6fWiX7OFla\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:540px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C6fWiX7OFla\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; line-height:0; padding:0 0; text-align:center; text-decoration:none; width:100%;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <div style=\" display: flex; flex-direction: row; align-items: center;\"> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 40px; margin-right: 14px; width: 40px;\"><\/div> <div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center;\"> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 100px;\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 60px;\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div style=\"padding: 19% 0;\"><\/div> <div style=\"display:block; height:50px; margin:0 auto 12px; width:50px;\"><svg width=\"50px\" height=\"50px\" viewbox=\"0 0 60 60\" version=\"1.1\" xmlns=\"https:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" xmlns:xlink=\"https:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xlink\"><g stroke=\"none\" stroke-width=\"1\" fill=\"none\" fill-rule=\"evenodd\"><g transform=\"translate(-511.000000, -20.000000)\" fill=\"#000000\"><g><path d=\"M556.869,30.41 C554.814,30.41 553.148,32.076 553.148,34.131 C553.148,36.186 554.814,37.852 556.869,37.852 C558.924,37.852 560.59,36.186 560.59,34.131 C560.59,32.076 558.924,30.41 556.869,30.41 M541,60.657 C535.114,60.657 530.342,55.887 530.342,50 C530.342,44.114 535.114,39.342 541,39.342 C546.887,39.342 551.658,44.114 551.658,50 C551.658,55.887 546.887,60.657 541,60.657 M541,33.886 C532.1,33.886 524.886,41.1 524.886,50 C524.886,58.899 532.1,66.113 541,66.113 C549.9,66.113 557.115,58.899 557.115,50 C557.115,41.1 549.9,33.886 541,33.886 M565.378,62.101 C565.244,65.022 564.756,66.606 564.346,67.663 C563.803,69.06 563.154,70.057 562.106,71.106 C561.058,72.155 560.06,72.803 558.662,73.347 C557.607,73.757 556.021,74.244 553.102,74.378 C549.944,74.521 548.997,74.552 541,74.552 C533.003,74.552 532.056,74.521 528.898,74.378 C525.979,74.244 524.393,73.757 523.338,73.347 C521.94,72.803 520.942,72.155 519.894,71.106 C518.846,70.057 518.197,69.06 517.654,67.663 C517.244,66.606 516.755,65.022 516.623,62.101 C516.479,58.943 516.448,57.996 516.448,50 C516.448,42.003 516.479,41.056 516.623,37.899 C516.755,34.978 517.244,33.391 517.654,32.338 C518.197,30.938 518.846,29.942 519.894,28.894 C520.942,27.846 521.94,27.196 523.338,26.654 C524.393,26.244 525.979,25.756 528.898,25.623 C532.057,25.479 533.004,25.448 541,25.448 C548.997,25.448 549.943,25.479 553.102,25.623 C556.021,25.756 557.607,26.244 558.662,26.654 C560.06,27.196 561.058,27.846 562.106,28.894 C563.154,29.942 563.803,30.938 564.346,32.338 C564.756,33.391 565.244,34.978 565.378,37.899 C565.522,41.056 565.552,42.003 565.552,50 C565.552,57.996 565.522,58.943 565.378,62.101 M570.82,37.631 C570.674,34.438 570.167,32.258 569.425,30.349 C568.659,28.377 567.633,26.702 565.965,25.035 C564.297,23.368 562.623,22.342 560.652,21.575 C558.743,20.834 556.562,20.326 553.369,20.18 C550.169,20.033 549.148,20 541,20 C532.853,20 531.831,20.033 528.631,20.18 C525.438,20.326 523.257,20.834 521.349,21.575 C519.376,22.342 517.703,23.368 516.035,25.035 C514.368,26.702 513.342,28.377 512.574,30.349 C511.834,32.258 511.326,34.438 511.181,37.631 C511.035,40.831 511,41.851 511,50 C511,58.147 511.035,59.17 511.181,62.369 C511.326,65.562 511.834,67.743 512.574,69.651 C513.342,71.625 514.368,73.296 516.035,74.965 C517.703,76.634 519.376,77.658 521.349,78.425 C523.257,79.167 525.438,79.673 528.631,79.82 C531.831,79.965 532.853,80.001 541,80.001 C549.148,80.001 550.169,79.965 553.369,79.82 C556.562,79.673 558.743,79.167 560.652,78.425 C562.623,77.658 564.297,76.634 565.965,74.965 C567.633,73.296 568.659,71.625 569.425,69.651 C570.167,67.743 570.674,65.562 570.82,62.369 C570.966,59.17 571,58.147 571,50 C571,41.851 570.966,40.831 570.82,37.631\"><\/path><\/g><\/g><\/g><\/svg><\/div><div style=\"padding-top: 8px;\"> <div style=\" color:#3897f0; 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border-bottom: 2px solid transparent; transform: translateX(16px) translateY(-4px) rotate(30deg)\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"margin-left: auto;\"> <div style=\" width: 0px; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-right: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(16px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; flex-grow: 0; height: 12px; width: 16px; transform: translateY(-4px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-left: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(-4px) translateX(8px);\"><\/div><\/div><\/div> <div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;\"> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 224px;\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 144px;\"><\/div><\/div><\/a><p style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C6fWiX7OFla\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Une publication partag\u00e9e par This is Patti Smith (@thisispattismith)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote><br\/><script async=\"\" data-cookieconsent=\"statistics, marketing\" data-src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><div class=\"cookieconsent-optout-statistics cookieconsent-optout-marketing\"><\/div><br\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\" data-start=\"1309\" data-end=\"1396\">\u201c<em>Activism is not easy. It\u2019s hard, ruthless and even heartbreaking<\/em>.\u201d \u2014 Patti Smith<\/h2><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p data-start=\"1398\" data-end=\"1435\"><strong data-start=\"1398\" data-end=\"1433\">Do you believe that\u2019s possible?<\/strong><\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We need a global movement. The other day, I saw a little girl picking up litter on a beach. She ended up cleaning the whole area on her own. So, imagine if a million people decided to clean the rivers. We have to roll up our sleeves and do our bit. So, if a poem can push us to do so, then God bless this poem. Before the pandemic, little Greta Thunberg was doing everything she could to start a movement. Millions of children marched in the streets everywhere, but then the pandemic set that fight back. Now we would like to start all over again, but we don\u2019t have any time to lose. We have to do it now. Otherwise, we will walk alone on this earth, and we will no longer see the beautiful things it offers, such as gazelles crossing a plain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p data-start=\"2133\" data-end=\"2176\"><strong data-start=\"2133\" data-end=\"2174\">How can a poem inspire people to take action?<\/strong><\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 1986, me and my late husband <strong>Fred \u201cSonic\u201d Smith<\/strong> [Frederick Dewey Smith, who died in 1994, was the guitarist of the band MC5 and his name inspired <strong>Sonic Youth<\/strong>, Ed.] wrote a poem called&nbsp;<em>People Have the Power<\/em>&nbsp;in 1998, and we made a song out of it. It was a song that people could use for their activism and to give them energy. Activism is not an easy task, it is hard, brutal, and even heartbreaking. My daughter, Jesse Paris Smith, is a climate change activist. Being an activist means constantly failing because you are lobbying big corporations and people who don\u2019t really care about these issues or don\u2019t even listen to you. Yet, it is so important to be heard.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=c_BcivBprM0\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=c_BcivBprM0<\/a><\/div>\r\n<figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Patti Smith Group &#8211;<em> Because the Night<\/em> (1978).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">\u201c<em>What can an artist do in all this? Inspire, thrill, encourage people<\/em>.\u201d \u2014 Patti Smith<\/h2><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p data-start=\"93\" data-end=\"126\"><strong data-start=\"93\" data-end=\"124\">What role can artists play?<\/strong><\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So what can an artist do in all this? Inspire, thrill, encourage people. This little song my husband and I wrote together has since travelled the world. This morning, someone sent me a video from Iran, showing young girls fighting for freedom. Girls there die fighting for freedom every day, just so their hair can blow freely in the wind. This song gave them momentum during a protest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Could you remind us of the lyrics?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let me recite the lyrics (she begins to chant the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pPR-HyGj2d0\"><strong><em data-start=\"614\" data-end=\"637\">People Have the Power<\/em><\/strong><\/a> in a spoken-word style, ed.):<br data-start=\"662\" data-end=\"665\">\u201c<em>I was dreaming in my dreaming \/ Of an aspect bright and fair \/ And my sleeping it was broken \/ But my dream it lingered near \/ In the form of shining valleys \/ Where the pure air recognized \/ And my senses newly opened \/ I awakened to the cry \/ That the people have the power \/ To redeem the work of fools \/ Upon the meek the graces shower \/ It\u2019s decreed the people rule \/ The people have the power<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C2DysFCJH7Z\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; 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border-bottom: 2px solid transparent; transform: translateX(16px) translateY(-4px) rotate(30deg)\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"margin-left: auto;\"> <div style=\" width: 0px; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-right: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(16px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; flex-grow: 0; height: 12px; width: 16px; transform: translateY(-4px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-left: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(-4px) translateX(8px);\"><\/div><\/div><\/div> <div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;\"> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 224px;\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 144px;\"><\/div><\/div><\/a><p style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/C2DysFCJH7Z\/?utm_source=ig_embed&#038;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Une publication partag\u00e9e par This is Patti Smith (@thisispattismith)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote><br\/><script async=\"\" data-cookieconsent=\"statistics, marketing\" data-src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><div class=\"cookieconsent-optout-statistics cookieconsent-optout-marketing\"><\/div><br\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-text-align-center\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">\u201c<em>In the 1970s and 1990s, when I did interviews or small press conferences like today, there was a majority of men<\/em>.\u201d \u2014 Patti Smith<\/h2><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p data-start=\"1199\" data-end=\"1264\"><strong data-start=\"1199\" data-end=\"1262\">Do you feel things have changed since the start of your musical career?<\/strong><\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the 1970s and 1990s, when I did interviews or small press conferences like today, there was a majority of men. I am happy to see that today, there are almost exclusively women. Things have really changed. I think we are living in a very beautiful period of time because there are so many female artists, poets, scientists, and activists. Especially through books, we are rediscovering and valuing the women who have been unfairly forgotten in our history. I have just finished a small book called <em><strong>A Book of Days<\/strong><\/em>inspired by Instagram. It contains 365 photographs. Like the social media, each day refers to an image and a caption.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Anything you would like to add about this book?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I was doing my research, I came across a young black scientist who lived in Hawaii in the 1920s. At that time, there was a big leper colony in Hawaii. She had discovered a treatment using the oil from the seeds of a tree to relieve the pain and allow patients to see their friends and family. Her name was <strong>Alice Ball<\/strong> and she died at 24 after a terrible chemical accident during an experiment. Her research was taken up by a professor who removed her name and took direct credit. 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