{"id":540154,"date":"2020-09-09T00:00:00","date_gmt":"1970-01-01T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/numero.com\/lifestyle\/julian-schnabel-paul-watson-david-lachapelle-and-cyrill-gutsch-4-personalities-fighting-for-a-better-world-2\/"},"modified":"2020-09-09T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"1970-01-01T00:00:00","slug":"julian-schnabel-paul-watson-david-lachapelle-and-cyrill-gutsch-4-personalities-fighting-for-a-better-world-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/lifestyle\/julian-schnabel-paul-watson-david-lachapelle-and-cyrill-gutsch-4-personalities-fighting-for-a-better-world-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Julian Schnabel, Paul Watson, David LaChapelle and Cyrill Gutsch&#8230; 4 personalities fighting for a better world"},"content":{"rendered":"\n            <div class=\"wp-block-cb-carousel cb-single-slide\" data-slick=\"{&quot;slidesToShow&quot;:1,&quot;slidesToScroll&quot;:1,&quot;speed&quot;:300,&quot;arrows&quot;:true,&quot;dots&quot;:false,&quot;autoplay&quot;:false,&quot;autoplaySpeed&quot;:3000,&quot;infinite&quot;:true,&quot;responsive&quot;:[{&quot;breakpoint&quot;:769,&quot;settings&quot;:{&quot;slidesToShow&quot;:1,&quot;slidesToScroll&quot;:1}}]}\">\n            \n                    <div class=\"wp-block-cb-slide\">\n                    \n                    <figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a21691951469&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a21691951469\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\">\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/ld-david-lachapelle-paul-watson_0-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-0\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button>\n                    <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">David LaChapelle and eco-activist Paul Watson photographed at Galerie Daniel Templon in Paris. 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Portrait Van Sarki.<\/figcaption>\n                    <\/figure>\n                    \n                    <\/div>\n                    <\/div>\n            <p>But what could there be in common between venerable artist Julian Schnabel, controversial \u201ceco-pirate\u201d and former Greenpeace member&nbsp;<b>Paul Watson,<\/b>&nbsp;and iconic pop photographer David LaChapelle? \u201cThe ocean!\u201d, they all reply in chorus, having been brought together by businessman&nbsp;<b>Cyrill Gutsch, founder of the organization Parley for the Oceans.&nbsp;<\/b>\u201cProtecting the oceans goes far beyond defending marine wildlife,\u201d explains Schnabel. \u201cDefending the oceans is about defending humanity.\u201d The well-known artist and director was one of the very first to support Parley, not only by designing its emblem, of course, but also by hosting its first meeting at his New York property, Palazzo Chupi. According to Parley,&nbsp;<b>all the world\u2019s coral will have disappeared by 2025,<\/b>&nbsp;while commercial fishing will have collapsed as of 2048, with disastrous consequences for biodiversity. Faced with these challenges, Parley has chosen to fight through the media. But they\u2019re also proposing more concrete solutions, such as the partnership set up between Pharrell Williams and G-Star Raw to recycle waste plastic from the oceans into a clothing collection. And that\u2019s just for starters \u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Num\u00e9ro: Do artists have a moral duty to fight for the defence of the planet?<\/b><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Julian Schnabel:<\/b>&nbsp;The truth is that you can only ask one thing of an artist: to create. For me, defending a cause, in this case the oceans, remains something personal that\u2019s quite distinct from my work as an artist. Andy Warhol was very generous, but that\u2019s not what made his work interesting. Artists work in a parallel world, which sometimes explains their lack of interest in what\u2019s going on around them. Take Matisse, for example: while Europe was going up in smoke he painted female nudes. Some might find that shocking, but let\u2019s face it he wasn\u2019t paid to comment on current affairs.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>David LaChapelle:<\/b>&nbsp;An artist\u2019s function isn\u2019t only to reflect on current debates in society. But we have the power to throw light on the world\u2019s darker areas, it\u2019s our responsibility. Today\u2019s artistic production responds more to market expectations than to society\u2019s challenges. As such, art is a reflection of our world, which is more interested in profit than ideas. Many artists are so obsessed by the price of their works at auction that they don\u2019t think about what art should be today.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>What does the future hold for us?<\/b><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Paul Watson:<\/b>&nbsp;The world in 2114 will look like it did in 1814, I\u2019m sure of it. A planet where we travel by horse and sail\u2026 And I think that\u2019s a good thing, because we simply don\u2019t have the resources to carry on living like we do today. Take airplanes: they\u2019re not just a means of transport but floating cities. As I speak, 3 million people are up in the air. There\u2019s a whole culture developing in the air right now. Is this really sensible? Is it necessary?<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>David LaChapelle:<\/b>&nbsp;The world has seen \u201cprogresses\u201d that we could have done without. Firms are constantly creating new needs without thinking of the consequences. When I was a child, there weren\u2019t any plastic water bottles. And then they appeared. We\u2019ve started paying for water, or rather for the plastic that contains it. And today we\u2019re paying again, to get rid of this plastic which is polluting our beaches.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Julian Schnabel:<\/b>&nbsp;It\u2019s become essential to distinguish between the necessary and the superfluous in our needs and lifestyles.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Do you think the world is ready to sacrifice some of its comfort?<\/b><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Paul Watson:<\/b>&nbsp;But we don\u2019t have any choice! Either we make radical decisions, or the planet will make them for us. I\u2019m optimistic, since we don\u2019t even need for a majority of the population to support these changes. The great human revolutions \u2013 for example the American Revolution or the French Revolution \u2013 never required the involvement of more than 7% of the total population.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>And are you ready to break the law to achieve this revolution?<\/b><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Paul Watson:&nbsp;<\/b>Recently we stopped some illegal fishing and saved 800 tuna. What we did was legitimate, even if some consider it illegal. The company in question has taken us to court in the U.K., and my boat has been impounded. Even when we win a case, their legions of lawyers make appeal after appeal in the hope of ruining us financially. Because I\u2019ve carried out this type of action, I\u2019m currently on a blacklist of the most dangerous people in the world, as if it were as bad as having participated in a genocide!<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Julian Schnabel:<\/b>&nbsp;It was the Japanese government\u2019s attempt to extradite you from Germany that opened my eyes to your combat. I couldn\u2019t understand how a man who fights to save innocent animals could be considered on the same footing as a war criminal\u2026<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><b>Paul Watson:&nbsp;<\/b>Sea Shepherd, my organization, is combative but non violent. Weapons are not the solution. But cameras can help us. If we can make public the reality of what\u2019s happening in the world, then we\u2019ll change the course of things. We\u2019ll save lives. Do people know that every ten days a boat carrying over 100 containers travels from China to the U.S. just for Walmart? Or that part of the fishing industry is working towards the extinction of certain species in order to push up prices? That they\u2019re willingly exterminating certain fish so as to be the only ones with stocks of them held in giant freezer warehouses? We\u2019re talking about millions of dollars here\u2026<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.parley.tv\/\"><b>www.parley.tv<\/b><\/a><\/p>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>But what could there be in common between venerable artist Julian Schnabel, controversial \u201ceco-pirate\u201d and [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"btn btn-secondary understrap-read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/lifestyle\/julian-schnabel-paul-watson-david-lachapelle-and-cyrill-gutsch-4-personalities-fighting-for-a-better-world-2\/\">Read More&#8230;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> from Julian Schnabel, Paul Watson, David LaChapelle and Cyrill Gutsch&#8230; 4 personalities fighting for a better world<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":540148,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-540154","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lifestyle"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Julian Schnabel, Paul Watson, David LaChapelle and Cyrill Gutsch... 4 personalities fighting for a better world - Num\u00e9ro<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/lifestyle\/julian-schnabel-paul-watson-david-lachapelle-and-cyrill-gutsch-4-personalities-fighting-for-a-better-world-2\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Julian Schnabel, Paul Watson, David LaChapelle and Cyrill Gutsch... 4 personalities fighting for a better world - Num\u00e9ro\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"But what could there be in common between venerable artist Julian Schnabel, controversial \u201ceco-pirate\u201d and [...]Read More... from Julian Schnabel, Paul Watson, David LaChapelle and Cyrill Gutsch&#8230; 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