{"id":497363,"date":"2022-11-02T00:00:00","date_gmt":"1970-01-01T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/numero.com\/art\/numero-art\/meet-artist-christopher-wool-the-master-who-creates-tension-between-painting-and-erasing-gesture-and-removal-2\/"},"modified":"2022-11-02T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"1970-01-01T00:00:00","slug":"meet-artist-christopher-wool-the-master-who-creates-tension-between-painting-and-erasing-gesture-and-removal-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/numero.com\/en\/art-design\/numero-art-en\/meet-artist-christopher-wool-the-master-who-creates-tension-between-painting-and-erasing-gesture-and-removal-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Meet artist Christopher Wool, the master who creates tension between painting and erasing, gesture and removal"},"content":{"rendered":"\n                    <figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a21e79e6b0b2&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a21e79e6b0b2\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\">\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/christopher-wool-xavier-hufkens-bruxelles-numero-art-numero-magazine2-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1568\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button>\n                    <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photograph: Oliver Abraham. Courtesy of the artist and Xavier Hufkens, Brussels. <\/figcaption>\n                    <\/figure>\n                    \n                    <p><strong>Nicolas Trembley: After minimalism and conceptualism, the early 1980s saw the arrival of figurative artists. But you weren\u2019t part of this discourse?<br \/>\r\nChristopher Wool:<\/strong> No, I think there was still a painting discourse. The late 1970s might have been a slow time in the art world, but when the Pictures Generation started showing \u2013 Julian Schnabel\u2019s first show, etc. \u2013 there was a lot of dialogue about what was going on.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\n                    <figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a21e79e6b47f&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a21e79e6b47f\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\">\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/christopher-wool-xavier-hufkens-bruxelles-numero-art-numero-magazine1-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1568\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button>\n                    <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Detail from &#8220;Bad Rabbit&#8221; (2022). Portfolio of 18 silver prints, 22.9 x 30.5 cm. <\/figcaption>\n                    <\/figure>\n                    \n                    <p><strong>Would you say you come more from the Pictures Generation, with photography and film, or from paint- ing? People tend to talk more about your paintings&#8230;&nbsp;<\/strong><br \/>\r\nYes, I know. I came from the Studio School in New York, a more traditional, painting-oriented background. A lot of Pictures Generation artists rejected painting. I think I was just young enough \u2013 I was a year or two younger \u2013 that by the time the idea of rejecting painting had settled in, I didn\u2019t need to. I could learn from them, the issues they brought up were important, but it didn\u2019t stop me from painting.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\n                    <figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a21e79e6b7b2&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a21e79e6b7b2\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\">\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/christopher-wool-xavier-hufkens-bruxelles-numero-art-numero-magazine3-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1568\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button>\n                    <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\u201cUntitled\u201d (2020). Oil and inkjet on paper, 55.9 x 43.2 cm. Courtesy of the Artist and Xavier Hufkens, Brussels. <\/figcaption>\n                    <\/figure>\n                    \n                    <p><strong>You work with different media. Do you feel more at ease with a particular one or is it about the combination?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>No, I think I\u2019m still a painter mostly. Sculpture is new to me. Richard Prince described his use of photography as \u201cpractising without a licence\u201d. I think that\u2019s a great description, because I don\u2019t think I come to photography like a pho-tographer would. It\u2019s maybe the same for sculpture: I have to get used to three dimensions, it\u2019s new to me.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\n                    <figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a21e79e6bac6&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a21e79e6bac6\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\">\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/christopher-wool-xavier-hufkens-bruxelles-numero-art-numero-magazine6-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1568\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button>\n                    <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\u201cUntitled\u201d (2019). Silkscreen on fabric, 304.8 x 243.8 cm. Courtesy of the artist and Xavier Hufkens, Brussels. <\/figcaption>\n                    <\/figure>\n                    \n                    <p><strong>What got you started on sculpture?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>It was quite simple actually. When we first got a house in Marfa and started spending time there, it just seemed natural to think about larger three-dimensional things, just because there\u2019s so much space. I had my camera and I started noticing funny, interesting, amusing things that were sculptural outside in Marfa \u2013 things people put in their yards in a silly way or any kind of industrial object. That became the book <i>Westtexaspsychosculpture<\/i>. The psychosculpture idea was borrowed from Kippenberger\u2019s book <i>Psychobuildings<\/i>. So, I was thinking about sculpture without having any specific plans. Then I found all this fencing wire that was left around the ranch next to my house, which I picked up because it had a nice line to it, similar to the line I draw with. It took me a while, but eventually I started making the thing stand up and they became three-dimensional in a simple way. It took a few years before I actually got around to making it art.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\n                    <figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a21e79e6bde7&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a21e79e6bde7\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\">\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/christopher-wool-xavier-hufkens-bruxelles-numero-art-numero-magazine5-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1568\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button>\n                    <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Detail from &#8220;Yard&#8221; (2018). Portfolio of 24 silver prints, 22.9 x 30.5 cm. \r\n<\/figcaption>\n                    <\/figure>\n                    \n                    <p><strong>\u201cI have left all the welts, so you can see the process of assembling,\u201d you said. To me that\u2019s like silkscreen, where you can see it\u2019s handmade, but it\u2019s a mechanical hand.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>I use silkscreen like a brush. It\u2019s just something between my hand and the painting. I do the screening myself and it seems like a very mechanical process. We know from early Warhol that there is an expressive way of working the silk- screen, so I have some control when I\u2019m making the painting \u2013 density, focus, all kinds of things. To me, it\u2019s one of those kinds of process that you can see, like a dripping in the painting, you can see it, you can feel that it is handmade. You know that it is not completely mechanical, it\u2019s printed like a professional printer. I think that gives the audience an entrance into the painting. I think visual art has power, that\u2019s the interest to me, and that should communicate to the audience. It\u2019s not a specific message.&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\n                    <figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;6a21e79e6c0d5&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"6a21e79e6c0d5\" class=\"wp-block-image size-medium-large wp-lightbox-container\">\n                    <img decoding=\"async\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--pointerdown=\"actions.preloadImage\" data-wp-on--pointerenter=\"actions.preloadImageWithDelay\" data-wp-on--pointerleave=\"actions.cancelPreload\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/numero.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/christopher-wool-xavier-hufkens-bruxelles-numero-art-numero-magazine4-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1568\" \/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-bind--aria-label=\"state.thisImage.triggerButtonAriaLabel\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.thisImage.buttonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.thisImage.buttonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button>\n                    <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\u201cUntitled\u201d (2021). Courtesy of the Artist and Xavier Hufkens, Brussels. \r\n\r\n<\/figcaption>\n                    <\/figure>\n                    \n                    <p><strong>You\u2019ve been working on some pieces for several years, coming back to them, using different techniques, scanning them, painting them, photographing them. When do you feel the work is finally finished?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>Oh, that\u2019s the million-dollar question! That\u2019s the hard part. I think, with experience, I trust myself, so I can do it a little easier. But I\u2019m always looking for something different and new, and I don\u2019t know what that is until it happens in the painting. So that\u2019s the challenge \u2013 to figure out how to finish the painting, and what it\u2019s going to say. I used to work with Polaroids in the studio, and take lots of photos so that I could see where I was. I\u2019ve kept all these photos in a box for ten years now. Looking over them, it was interesting to see all the paintings that got painted over, and all the paintings that weren\u2019t \u201cfinished paintings\u201d and probably should have been. I think, as opposed to the high idea of Modernism, there isn\u2019t one particular perfect painting that you\u2019re looking for. All kinds of different things can happen and be interesting. That\u2019s the exciting part!&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nicolas Trembley: After minimalism and conceptualism, the early 1980s saw the arrival of figurative artists. 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